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2.7K views 16 replies 10 participants last post by  pietroraimondi  
#1 ·
Was wondering if anyone has put one of these monsters in their V? Does it even fit?:stirpot:

Thanks,
Chef
 
#3 ·
Fit would probably be problematic as the engine has different dimensions, not to mention a dry sump (you'd have to find a place for the oil tank or move the battery somewhere else, like in the Z).
It's definately a better high performance motor than say an LS-6 or LS-2 that was maggied, but I kind of doubt you would really see the benefit of it over a S/C on your existing motor. You'd get a 7k redline and no oil starvation on lengthy hard lateral acceleration, but you'd have to be using your V REALLY hard for those to be significant issues. The biggest advantage I can see would be no S/C heat soak.
 
#4 ·
I agree with the above poster.

I don't see any reason to install an LS-7 in a V for ~$15k.

You can easily get something that puts more HP/TQ to the tires and be cheaper, if you had, say, Andy at A&A Corvette (or someone similar) put a motor together for you, exactly as you wanted it to be.
 
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#5 ·
Luna. said:
I agree with the above poster.

I don't see any reason to install an LS-7 in a V for ~$15k.

You can easily get something that puts more HP/TQ to the tires and be cheaper, if you had, say, Andy at A&A Corvette (or someone similar) put a motor together for you, exactly as you wanted it to be.
I think the engines are around 14K alone, your talking another big chunk to get it up and running. It's not a plug and play deal. The secret to that engine is the heads and intake. Around 370 cfm and 330ish cfm with the intake on. Airflow is key and those heads deliver. If they worked with a 4.030 bore the LS7 heads and intake would be on my 408 like yesterday. That's 600 rwhp airflow through those things on the correct shortblock.
 
#7 ·
If i'm not mistaken the LS7 is putting 500 to the rear wheels in the Z06. Im pretty sure it makes around 570 at the crank box stock. With a cam, headers and exhaust people are seeing almost 600 to the wheels. A LS6 is in a bit different category. If I had the money Id put one in my V. They are amazing engines. Titanium Valves and rods, already dry sumped, factory CNC'd heads. To do this to a LS6 would take a hell of alot more than 14,000 dollars.

Just look at the pictures on pages 5,6,7 and 8.

http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=Z06&sort=importdate&source=all

You might have to use the jump to page.
 
#10 ·
What can you put to the ground with a $10k modded engine versus a $6 - 8 (depending on labor or not) maggied stock engine? Would we all be better off spending dollars on a modifed to spec LS6 or LS2 engine? How much more reliable is a re-build than a maggie stock mod? With a good wrench behind you...I would venture to say you would beat the maggied stock mod by possibly 20 RWHP. :eek:
 
#11 ·
Yes, seems like a lot to do for some serious hp. The other day I rolled up to get my V washed and the dude at (Cobblestone) says, whoa sweet ride :worship: but I like the other guy's V better. He proceeded to tell me that this other guy has an 06 V factory supercharged LS7 with headers/exhaust the works and that you could hear it a mile away ---over 600 to the wheels:thepan:

Back to the kitchen:stirpot: and hit some :alchi:
 
#12 ·
I expect the CTS-V to have an LS7 in 2008 or 09.

They monitor these boards and they know what will sell, and it won't be a blown Northstar.

Pushrod=hotrod

It won't sell very well unless they get the basics right (drivetrain - beancounters).:mad:

Also, don't offer a bunch of bells and whistles that aren't going to be supported.

My $0.02.
 
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#14 ·
V-SATX said:
What can you put to the ground with a $10k modded engine versus a $6 - 8 (depending on labor or not) maggied stock engine? Would we all be better off spending dollars on a modifed to spec LS6 or LS2 engine? How much more reliable is a re-build than a maggie stock mod? With a good wrench behind you...I would venture to say you would beat the maggied stock mod by possibly 20 RWHP. :eek:
For around $8,500 retail, you can build a 402 that will rock the shit out of any maggie car you will ever see. With a mild cam, you would be damn close to 500 rwhp and great street manners. No offense to anyone with a maggie, but the intercooler design SUCKS. I heard through the grapevine that maggies new unit will be without an intercooler..... hmmmm. When KB finally releases his blower kit, maggie car's are going to be crying for mercy on price and performance.

On the stock shortblock, H/C, LT's and FAST combo will have you looking at 430+ rwhp with a mild cam, add some duration and watch the hp number rise, 450+ rwhp is easy with the correct combo. Minimal cash outlay and do it in your garage.
 
#15 ·
10secvette said:
On the stock shortblock, H/C, LT's and FAST combo will have you looking at 430+ rwhp with a mild cam, add some duration and watch the hp number rise, 450+ rwhp is easy with the correct combo. Minimal cash outlay and do it in your garage.
What would be the dream solution...parts ect. This is exactly what I was told. Improve and the LS6 greatness.:thumbsup:
 
#17 ·
I have to agree that there are some far more naturally aspirated selections from GM Performance/Lingenfelter with regard to there CNC ported World Challenge cylinder heads, proper cam selection and manifold and throttle body selection that can have the LS6 or LS2 producing well over the 505 HP available in the LS7 package for far less than $14000 plus labor. Seems like an awful lot of $$ for another 100 BHP.

And for that matter; the OEM bottom of the LS6 and LS2 are capable of supporting 650 BHP with the OEM factory standard Mahle piston and existing crank. If you push the 650 HP limit; then you really need to make sure that your rotating assembly (crank, pistons, piston rods and wrist pins are forged).

The GM performance/Lingenfelter CNC ported World Challenge cylinder heads along with a GT2-3 hot cam, extrude honed FAST intake plenum and 90mm throttle body is good for producing 500 plus BHP without any risk of damage to the bottom of the engine, the OEM crank, or the OEM Mahle pistons, wrist pins or rods.

If you do the math; the GM performance/Lingenfelter cylinder heads, GT2-3 cam, extrude honed Fast intake plenum and a 90mm throttle body is a lot less than $14000 for an LS7 or the $7000 for the maggie blower and you'll get the same result regarding RWHP.

The Corvette C5 racing program has been using this identical N/A set-up for years on the LS6 to produce in excess of 500 HP before "Maggie" was ever conceived.